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The Imperialistic Thought by erisdoll The Imperialistic Thought by erisdoll
The complete title is “The Imperialistic Thought for their Unexpected Demise” this is one of my plates for Sir Austria’s Digital Mysticism . It is highly symbolic and I would gladly explain each aspect of the artwork if asked.

Will not be able to reply to you immediately but I will in due time. please bear with me :)

Theme: To illustrate the mysticism found during imperial China’s downfall while incorporating the digital elements.

Sources: Most of the images were either taken by myself or scanned, however, though enhanced and manipulated, the following pictures must be noted for their sources. The mechanical hairpiece was taken from Spiderman2’s Dr.Octopus tentacles (screenshot). The Box was taken from a picture on Ebay for auction (permission obtained from the owner). The Abacus sillouete was taken from Getty Images (royalty free).

On a lighter note: That's me !!!! that's me ;)

Edit: So sorry I changed it .... it's not obvious cuz it's technically the exact same thing but I had to buy the freaking box from ebay and take the exact same pic , got my uncles abacus to pic and created tetacles via Maya ..... HELL but everything has to be original for this darn contest . GAWDS!!!!
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richard-chin Featured By Owner Jun 11, 2007
amazing use of textures
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erisdoll Featured By Owner Jun 27, 2007
thank you XD
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Reidsan Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2005
Nooo! Don't TELL me what the picture's about!

I love this. I do. The only problem is that it's too big for my monitor.

Yes, you are going on watch.
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erisdoll Featured By Owner Mar 22, 2005
hahaha thanks ;)

well some people like the bg on it :D so anyway .....

er you can always look at the preview pic ..... don't really want to make it smaller just in case my computer crashes again ;)
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KittyD Featured By Owner Nov 14, 2004  Professional Digital Artist
Absulutly beautiful! :jawdrop: :worship: I am tottaly in love with it! :heart: :+favlove: The textures, the coulors, the composition, they all work toguether to form a stunning masterpiece. Too bad there isint a print of it for me to put in my wishlist...
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gravewell Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2004
(ooops sorry...something dumb happened. I accidentally clicked on the submit button while trying to close other windows XD :rofl: )

where was I...ayun! - pointless kasi this is an artwork you critique for it's depth on multiple levels AND how that depth is conveyed with just the right balance of subtlety and consistency.

So instead I'll critique this on how, say, me, as a typical bystander (who has never heard your explanation) told to take time reflecting on the work would digest your work (or more accurately, what it's saying). And I figure I could demonstrate that more clearly if I stated my inferences/interpretations in the order in which they first came. I'm doing this so you can tell for yourself whether your plate did what you intended it to do.

1. "Imperialistic...aloof, snobbish empress pose..."
2. "Steel horns on head...evil empress..." (see # 7 :D )
3. "Ghostly, slightly scary hands holding/cherishing what seems to be a very precious box..."
4. "precious box = wealth? jewels/trinkets? wealth=power? maybe power? fragile sense of having power? "
5. "oh so those are tattoos...beasts...guarding the box...guarding something precious?"
6. "queen of hearts card so out of place...no wait maybe just to emphasize the royalty theme?"
7. "wtf...those aren't horns they're ock arms...oh there she said it LOLZ"
8. "mech arms in head...robotic way of thinking? robotic...unyielding...stubborn?"
9. "binary background...prolly for digital feel..."
10. "for awhile there it seemed the box had a little pet perhaps that wants to get out but unfortunately bratty empress with clawed hands is guarding it selfishly...carries it like a trophy..."
11."Imperialistic thought, unexpected demise...could it be, ok bratty empress is actually about to die, yet holds on to cherished box as if it were the most important thing."
12."Oh...fu*k. Ok, imperialistic...bratty queen about to die....holding onto box of...power...? Sh*t...last vestiges of power...empress...empress Dowager!? (it does look chinese)...oh sh*t, sh*t...ah... *recalls The Last Emperor* .... AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!! :w00t:
13. *moment of gradual enlightenment* :D
14. "Teka...san yung unexpected demise? san yung hint of dying? hmmm...san yung hint na matatapos na yung reign of heaven/mandate of heaven Oh wait, tange. Kaya nga pala unexpected demise XD - prolly why there's no hint of their time ending. Pero didn't they have it coming...? No wait - they refused to believe it was coming. Ayun. Way to go dood hehe XD. So prolly not really as in unexpected, more like in denial...or resenting the idea of their inevitable doom...."
15. "pet in box...LOL possibly the last emperor trying to get out as a kid? puweeeede... :D "
16. *few more moments of letting the insights flow in*
17. "refused to believe their time is at an end" - ayun kaya stubborn, unyielding...heaven's will and all that...puweeede..."
18 *same as 16*
19. "OMG pwede ring...the last emperor/pet in the box was so cherished because...(baka safeguarding it)...it's their last claim to power..."
20. "tattoos...beasts guarding the last emperor?" baka military...those who wanted him out of his place of power? nah doesn't make sense then why would they be painted on hands that seem to guard the box? Juxtaposed images? On the guise of guarding pero...Malabo..."
21. "Yoko na. Still have work tom. Urgh headache..." :rofl:

There :D Honestly, this was how I derived the meaning given your explanation. If you've noticed, I really didn't get your inputs on the card, the make-up , the abacus I didn't notice XD, the earrings, the hair, nor the trim, though I think you wanted us to notice the card because it's in the cleavage area...? Dunno, maybe reading too much into how you depict them XD

So yeah there :) Honestly for a plate, and although I'll never be able to relate since I haven't been in that kind of class, it did pretty well. The critical prerequisite for this to work though is your viewer has to have more or less a background on Chinese History ^^;

And well, on a final note, and not just to kiss ass, but for one brief moment, you did seem to do it like Dave Mc Kean ;) :headbang: (that, or I just really haven't see that much digital art yet XD )

Oh God gotta sleep... :sleep:
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gravewell Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2004
Wow. (I'm trying to say that as profoundly as I could XD )

I knew hindi ako nagkamali when I chose to watch you.

Lots of artists here have talent, no doubt. But only a few could imbue that much depth and varied symbolism in their artworks. Karamihan eye-candy lang. May kaunti, kunwari may hidden meaning pero more often than not it's really just juvenile angst or shallow romance. They'll latch onto any sentiment or idea that seems cool at the moment.

If you're expecting critiques to the digital aesthetics - medyo pointless na, IMO.

So instead I'll critique
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mizutamari Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2004  Student Filmographer
I am positively SPEECHLESS! This is MASTERFUL! So many different levels and meanings! STUNNING WORK!
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erisdoll Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2004
Thank you :D :D :D :D hahahaha .... had to have diffrent levels.... our teacher in this class is an evil godforsaken bastard :evilaugh:
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mizutamari Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2004  Student Filmographer
well I think your layers work UNBELIEVEABLY well together, especially with the color palette...
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erisdoll Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2004
thanks .... was just hitting for sepia with a hint of dave mckean :D :D :D
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hazel-velas Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2004
WOE!!!! ang asteg!!! :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:
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erisdoll Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2004
Thanks :D :D :D
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eva-guy01 Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2004  Hobbyist General Artist
Sweeeeet! My plate sucks big time compared to yours, hehehe!

Ummm, is it my imagination, or are those clips from Doc Ock's tentacles you used for the hair? Hehehe, trying to identify the original sources of your elements. ^_^
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erisdoll Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2004
Thanks :D :D :D but how can that be possible... master ka ah! :D :D :D

yep they are .... *points to sources* :giggle:
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mikko Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2004  Student Digital Artist
Wow this is cool. o_o So pretty... @_@;
I wanna know how to make cool photomanips too~ XD
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erisdoll Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2004
just play with photoshop mikko :D :D :D
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Chibi-Mika Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2004
Your artwork never fails to amaze me. To risk putting you to sleep with my endless amounts of praise, I'll try to make this short. The colors are very vibrant, and really catch your eye. I'm floored by all the detail in this picture. Every line seems to be placed in the EXACT spot that it's supposed to be in. The Queen of Hearts card was a wonderful idea, and really sets mood of this piece. The yen earrings was interesting, and.. wow.. I mean, I could just go on and on with how impressed I am with this picture. There's just so much detail and so much color and so many vibrance and creative thoughts put into this piece. It's so symbolic and so beautiful. If you had a prints account, and had this up for sale, I would buy a few of them. x.x; How corny was that? lol.. I just... Really can't piece together exactly what I want to come across here. ^^; But excellent picture, deviantly a fav! :+fav: :love:
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erisdoll Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2004
Thank you so much :D :D :D I'm glad you like it and I so glad you took time out to write such a long comment , however short you call it ;)
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Chibi-Mika Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2004
You're a wonderful artist. You deserve big long comments. Hopefully it didn't take up too much of your time to read it. ^^; :hug:
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erisdoll Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2004
no love reading long comments:D aside from the fact that they're a cheer to my day, I also have difficulty writing long comments myself ;)
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Chibi-Mika Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2004
I try to give long comments when I get a chance, and when I have something to say. x.x Sometimes though I get stumped. x.x;
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erisdoll Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2004
that's why it's wonderful when someone comments that way . :D
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erosthanatos Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2004  Hobbyist General Artist
OMG... I love this piece! THis is outstanding. Great use of symbolic elements, and excellent execution. Such a great visual texture to this.
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erisdoll Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2004
Thank you :D :D :D
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genevievego Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2004  Professional General Artist
OMG :eyepopping:
love the symbolisms, the earrings, and the hands :D
you're nuts x.x
(picks myself up from floor and quickly faves)
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erisdoll Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2004
Thanks so much genie :D :D :D hahaha yes to a certain point I'm going nuts ;)
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genevievego Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2004  Professional General Artist
no prob :D XD :D
going nuts isnt a bad thing... :evillaugh:
hehehe :D
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erisdoll Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2004
hahaha .... no when it's caused by lack of sleep ;)
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genevievego Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2004  Professional General Artist
:D :D :D
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batangbatugan Featured By Owner Oct 1, 2004
It is you! It is you! XD

Ok, the jump from water color to digital manipulation is just too much for me(tears are welling in my eyes), I am in awe at your works, this is one gorgeous piece, something like Amidala with too much gin or something ^.^ It's nice you're having courses with really funky names, well, at least I was fortunate enough to take hold of Corel Draw 3 in college(top that!). XP
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michikosakurahime Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2004
corel draw three... i remember that from high school...
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erisdoll Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2004
actually corey , I think you guys are around the same age .... honestly ah .... not joking ..... ;)
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erisdoll Featured By Owner Oct 1, 2004
Thank you so much ...... :D :D :D hahaha .... coming from a master like you ;)

btw, that's not the name of the course that's the topic of the plate ;)

Corel draw 3 gods ...... ancient ..... grabe ....... O_O
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batangbatugan Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2004
More like dinosaur kamo...XP

Nah, I'm just another artist trying to improve my craft, and hopefully learn new skills along the way
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erisdoll Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2004
yeah right .... hahaha sa galing mong iyan !!!!! :D :D :D

hahaha ..... poor you .... if you need help with photoshop I guess I can help you with the electronic part . ;)
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Uchanati Featured By Owner Oct 1, 2004
The way incorportated the modern to represent the past is amazing. I really like the red that you used and how it all flows down from the head dress that is really great, the movement is just amazing
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erisdoll Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2004
Thank you so much :D :D :D
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Uchanati Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2004
You're welcome, good stuff
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nightowl Featured By Owner Oct 1, 2004  Hobbyist Photographer
that is kinda funky . dont know what to say but i like it .
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erisdoll Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2004
I can't say it's funky but thanks anyway :D :D :D
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anaria Featured By Owner Oct 1, 2004
Wow, the elements all together are just gorgeous. :heart:

I would love to know the symbolism behind it, please share. :)
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erisdoll Featured By Owner Oct 1, 2004
hehehe ..... er .... a VERY Looooooooooooong explanation ...... ;)

Symbolic Details:
The mechanical hairpiece- the steely hold of the royals during the time; however vain the cause, they still control the beliefs of the people. Intentionally made to look like horns to resemble the devil, it an analogy to the influence of the imperialists.
The I-ching earrings- Rooted by yang (the right earring) and yin (the left) these begin the traditionally beliefs in mysticism, religion and superstition among most Chinese.
The two tiger tattoo - Two Chinese factions, two Chinese beliefs, the communists against the imperialist grasping to defend/ enter the box (“Forbidden City”).
The abacus to digital background- the modern twist from Chinese culture. The abacus which was mainly used during imperial china, was used less during the communist period it is only now during the digital age where it is once again the abacus style of calculation is used.
The mechanized hands- Reminicent of a dancers ornaments, the steel fingers are simple there to scare, however still quite useless. Something like the amulet the Boxers believed to have special powers but were actually useless. On the other hand it doubles as push for the digitations part of the plate.
The box with “The Forbidden Place” design- the box is a key element to the unification of the piece; it serves as a subordinate subject because the forbidden place was fought over during the fall of the imperial system. It is here that all mysticism concerning the royals was formed because of the forbidden aspect to the place. I simply thought a closed box would be suitable to symbolize the close door attitude of the royals.
The cell shaped kimono-The pattern had reminded me of the bytes and bits because for some reason it has been ingrained in my mind that bytes were shaped like the honey combs of bees.
The white makeup mask- The white makeup is a front like the front the imperialist used to try to convince the people that the system was still okay. However like the imperialist the front was flawed, hence the inverted lip stick pattern.
Rim of the kimono-The rim of the kimono is basically very messy Chinese script with the message “zero, one, zero, zero, one …”
The manipulated “Queen of Hearts”- The playing card is very foreign to the Chinese culture, hence it symbolizes a British aspect. The fall of the imperial system started with China’s loss during the boxer revolution. The Empress Dowager (the “queen”) had to give up land to England. They exploited the resources of the land however changing it to the well-developed city we now know as Hong Kong; hence the inverted hearts on the card, which in my opinion, gives it a spear like effect.
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anaria Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2004
Thank you, I appreciate your sharing this with me. :)
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erisdoll Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2004
np :D
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commiealex Featured By Owner Oct 1, 2004
So....

Can you explain each aspect of the artwork?
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erisdoll Featured By Owner Oct 1, 2004
get ready this is going to be one long reply.... ;)



Symbolic Details:
The mechanical hairpiece- the steely hold of the royals during the time; however vain the cause, they still control the beliefs of the people. Intentionally made to look like horns to resemble the devil, it an analogy to the influence of the imperialists.
The I-ching earrings- Rooted by yang (the right earring) and yin (the left) these begin the traditionally beliefs in mysticism, religion and superstition among most Chinese.
The two tiger tattoo - Two Chinese factions, two Chinese beliefs, the communists against the imperialist grasping to defend/ enter the box (“Forbidden City”).
The abacus to digital background- the modern twist from Chinese culture. The abacus which was mainly used during imperial china, was used less during the communist period it is only now during the digital age where it is once again the abacus style of calculation is used.
The mechanized hands- Reminicent of a dancers ornaments, the steel fingers are simple there to scare, however still quite useless. Something like the amulet the Boxers believed to have special powers but were actually useless. On the other hand it doubles as push for the digitations part of the plate.
The box with “The Forbidden Place” design- the box is a key element to the unification of the piece; it serves as a subordinate subject because the forbidden place was fought over during the fall of the imperial system. It is here that all mysticism concerning the royals was formed because of the forbidden aspect to the place. I simply thought a closed box would be suitable to symbolize the close door attitude of the royals.
The cell shaped kimono-The pattern had reminded me of the bytes and bits because for some reason it has been ingrained in my mind that bytes were shaped like the honey combs of bees.
The white makeup mask- The white makeup is a front like the front the imperialist used to try to convince the people that the system was still okay. However like the imperialist the front was flawed, hence the inverted lip stick pattern.
Rim of the kimono-The rim of the kimono is basically very messy Chinese script with the message “zero, one, zero, zero, one …”
The manipulated “Queen of Hearts”- The playing card is very foreign to the Chinese culture, hence it symbolizes a British aspect. The fall of the imperial system started with China’s loss during the boxer revolution. The Empress Dowager (the “queen”) had to give up land to England. They exploited the resources of the land however changing it to the well-developed city we now know as Hong Kong; hence the inverted hearts on the card, which in my opinion, gives it a spear like effect.

:D
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